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What did JJ Cruise say about the failure on the health inspection when someone commented about it on their Totally Honest Review video?

"They received an 81 which was just 4 points less than passing. This is definitely not much when you note that the lack of pool safety signage was included in that score. All cruise lines typically get 30 days to fix all issues and score higher…this doesn’t apply to them since they won’t be back in the USA for 3.5 years."

What did Midlife say about it when someone asked if they were concerned about the failure on their YT?

"Nope, just read the entire document and not one single item concerned me. When it was Fred Braemar it was the SAME way!!!! Current standards have NEW rules....the first 10 items are literally LABELS that have to be added. Please let us enjoy this amazing lifestyle. The fixes are SUPER easy and they have already completed fixing half of them. ZERO places need a "complete overhaul" which if you read the actual document is EXTREMELY obvious!"

Let the spin and the downplaying and the Totally Honest Subterfuge begin! BTW, don't drink the water. 😉

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I think what may tell the story of JJ Cruise's actual Totally Honest Review is, that they removed their compensation link from their VV videos which they had had on their early videos. The link was no longer on videos after just 5 days onboard the Odyssey.

First I recommend reading @WhatIsHppn's comment on the Stop Torturing Us JJ Cruise article where he/she contacted JJ about potentially booking and they responded "We want to clarify that while we did recently sail aboard Villa Vie, it was strictly for media coverage and review purposes. We were not onboard in a sales capacity, and as such, we are not selling or booking Villa Vie through our agency."

REALLY? If, JJ, you weren't onboard in a "sales capacity" then why on your "Embarkation Day" video in Catalina Island did you have a link on that video??

"More Information about Villa Vie Here. Use code “JJ300” while booking any segment to receive $300 OBC for your Segment:

https://villavieresidences.com/reside..."

This same link for their sales compensation was on JJ's "Finally boarding Villa Vie" video on June 5, 2 weeks prior to their boarding. Hmmm, it appears they were expecting to do sales, doesn't it? But a mere 5 days after being onboard that sales link was no longer on the "Here's what it's really like onboard" (48hour impression video) and has been on none of their VV videos since.

That's interesting.

Was the first 48 hour impression so horrifying they were no longer willing to sell a VV cabin?

Did they learn so much about VV's potential financial problems, lawsuits, treatment of passengers, community disfunction issues, NDAs, maintenance issues (our cabin is "on the cool side"), all of which was provided to them in the Comments of their videos which they promptly deleted? Did that info give them pause on participating in selling VV cabins to the unsuspecting public and therefore damaging their own business or opening themselves up to be named as parties in potential future lawsuits?

Or did they get tired of all the Circle Sea Days they experienced as their cruise time onboard was wasted and a myriad of other onboard personal experiences that made them feel they didn't want to sell that cruise to their own customers?

My potential guess is, that when they talk amongst themselves off camera about VV, they don't have those constant smiles pasted on their faces and they may be saying something quite different or more detailed than they chose to say on the video. Possibly fearing blowback if they were too detailed vs just high level and glossing over the issues which they did lightly touch on?

What compensation arrangements does VV have with these types of links they originally had?

Travel agents get 5% commission on cabin sales and Endless Horizons and 10% commission on segments. VV affiliates get 2% cash on the total sale 30 days after VV is paid or 4% of total sale in onboard credit for yourself or anyone else you choose. But it seems something happened that made JJ pull back from these plans that they clearly had prior to boarding and as they boarded.

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